Template talk:Infobox London station

Latest comment: 1 month ago by The Wall Rat in topic Adding depths

Collapsible sections

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Is there any possibility that the statistical sections (railexits, railints, tubeexits & dlrbats) could be presented in a collapsible section? They consume a lot of space when inserted into a page and these detailed statistics are of little interest to the average reader. Given that many railway station articles are light on textual content, this can cause unnecessary layout problems and preclude the addition of relevant images into the article.

A collapsible section could be headed "Usage statistics", and its collapse state could be optional, giving editors the freedom to adjust the presentation to suit articles on a case-by-case basis. Thanks. Cnbrb (talk) 08:12, 23 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

MOS:COLLAPSE. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:38, 23 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I read MOS:COLLAPSE before posting this and it doesn't preclude my suggested solution. "Auto-collapsing is often a feature of navboxes. A few infoboxes also use pre-collapsed sections for infrequently accessed details." Cnbrb (talk) 17:28, 25 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Mapframe?

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I can't see how to use mapframe with this template (as per {{infobox station}}). Mapframe provides far more flexible mapping than the traditional static crop from openstreetmap, which seems to have been largely abandoned elsewhere. Have I missed something? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 22:32, 5 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Coordinates

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When the | coordinates = parameter is used (to display both lat/long at the top of the page and the location map), but the display=inline option is not used (ie display=title only), it still leaves the label WGS84, but without any value displayed, eg here. It provides no topical information, looks untidy and unnecessarily extends the infobox. Is there any way to get rid of the label? -- Verbarson  talkedits 13:55, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Adding depths

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I would like to propose additional fields to the infobox, this being depths, using datasets from Transport for London under Other Information and/or a new header Platform Depths. There are two measurements I am interested in including, that is the platform depth and the station depth. Station depth might seem like a bit of an odd one to add, but I include it for the sake of understanding the platform's depth in relation to it's station. For instance, though Hampstead is often considered to have the deepest platform, but this is in relation to its station. Westminister has the deepest platform in relation to sea level. That is why the distinction is important.

There is some discussion to be had here if these fields are of interest.

First of all is which of the data to display. In the datasheet, each station has:

  1. Station depth
  2. x2 depths for each line associated with station (N/S or E/W platforms)

The most values a station currently have are tied between Baker Street and King's Cross with 9 values each. If the discretions between each direction's depth were consistently insignificant, I would suggest just calculating a mean between them and listing that, however some platforms have distinctly different depths for either opposing platform so I am of the opinion they should remain as separate values as they appear on the datasheet.

In the datasheet, the stations are listed using their relation to Ordinance Data Newlyn (AOD) and the platforms in relation London Underground Datum (LUD). While esoteric, these are the official standard used and converting them to something more familiar such as sea-level means the values are open to contest so I opt to keep them as-is.

Using Bakerstreet as an example, my proposition would look something like this:

Other information
External links TfL station info page
Coordinates 51.522°N 0.157°W
Station Depth 27m AOD
Platform depths

(in relation to LUD)

Bakerloo N:108.7m S:105.1m
Hammersmith

& City

E: 118.8m W: 119.9m
Metropolotin E: 120.5m W:120.5m

In the above example, I put both opposing directions on the same line which admitantly does look a bit messy. I don't know if there are symbols to use instead for NSEW but those could be used instead to add some visual space between each measurement. Alternatively, the second value can be put on a new line, the drawback of this of course being that it will lengthen this section. The Wall Rat (talk) 15:42, 2 March 2025 (UTC)Reply